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		<title>By: Mommy Brain &#187; Links for Friday&#8230; two days late</title>
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		<author>Mommy Brain &#187; Links for Friday&#8230; two days late</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve seen this Bitter Homeschooler&#8217;s Wish List a few different places now, but I first saw it at More Than [...]</description>
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		<title>By: morethanfine</title>
		<link>http://morethanfine.homeschooljournal.net/2007/11/08/since-im-in-a-mood-this-week/#comment-1007</link>
		<author>morethanfine</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lori, I think that's a good point about wanting to retain something we've learned - that's not dependent on the teacher, although they have influence on how we look back on a topic.  People frequently tell me that they'd like to homeschool but they don't remember Algebra or Chemistry so therefore they can't homeschool.  I usually say something about how I'm learning right along with my son OR that I farm out some topics, like Chemistry this year.  

That is one great thing about the growth of homeschooling - we have tons of options in how we do it and not all of them are at home.  I'm very thankful to the pioneers of the homeschooling movement that have paved the way for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori, I think that&#8217;s a good point about wanting to retain something we&#8217;ve learned - that&#8217;s not dependent on the teacher, although they have influence on how we look back on a topic.  People frequently tell me that they&#8217;d like to homeschool but they don&#8217;t remember Algebra or Chemistry so therefore they can&#8217;t homeschool.  I usually say something about how I&#8217;m learning right along with my son OR that I farm out some topics, like Chemistry this year.  </p>
<p>That is one great thing about the growth of homeschooling - we have tons of options in how we do it and not all of them are at home.  I&#8217;m very thankful to the pioneers of the homeschooling movement that have paved the way for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://morethanfine.homeschooljournal.net/2007/11/08/since-im-in-a-mood-this-week/#comment-1006</link>
		<author>Lori</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops - apparently spelling is another one I haven't retained.  That would be " I just HAVE no desire to retain."  Ugh.  Old brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops - apparently spelling is another one I haven&#8217;t retained.  That would be &#8221; I just HAVE no desire to retain.&#8221;  Ugh.  Old brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
		<link>http://morethanfine.homeschooljournal.net/2007/11/08/since-im-in-a-mood-this-week/#comment-1005</link>
		<author>Lori</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's sad that parents clapped and cheered because the kids went back to school.  I love my kids and enjoy them being around.  I don't homeschool, but have considered it at various points along this educational journey.  So, yes, my boys go to public school.  But, no, I don't clap because school is "in."  

I'm sure those questions are just as frustrating to you as people saying (once finding out my oldest is an insulin dependent diabetic) - "Oh, I guess he can't eat sugar.  Does he have a special diet?"  Mostly it's just ignorance of what diabetes entails.  I'm sure some of the homeschooling comments come from parents who just don't understand the homeschooling option.  

And...just as an afterthought - just because I don't remember much from algebra 2 in 11th grade doesn't mean my teacher wasn't very good (actually it was Christian school).  It just means my old brain has forgotten way too much.  I don't think it matter what kind of teacher anyone has - there are some subjects  (for me, MATH) that I just hae no desire to retain - especially if I don't use ALGEBRA concepts on a daily basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s sad that parents clapped and cheered because the kids went back to school.  I love my kids and enjoy them being around.  I don&#8217;t homeschool, but have considered it at various points along this educational journey.  So, yes, my boys go to public school.  But, no, I don&#8217;t clap because school is &#8220;in.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure those questions are just as frustrating to you as people saying (once finding out my oldest is an insulin dependent diabetic) - &#8220;Oh, I guess he can&#8217;t eat sugar.  Does he have a special diet?&#8221;  Mostly it&#8217;s just ignorance of what diabetes entails.  I&#8217;m sure some of the homeschooling comments come from parents who just don&#8217;t understand the homeschooling option.  </p>
<p>And&#8230;just as an afterthought - just because I don&#8217;t remember much from algebra 2 in 11th grade doesn&#8217;t mean my teacher wasn&#8217;t very good (actually it was Christian school).  It just means my old brain has forgotten way too much.  I don&#8217;t think it matter what kind of teacher anyone has - there are some subjects  (for me, MATH) that I just hae no desire to retain - especially if I don&#8217;t use ALGEBRA concepts on a daily basis.</p>
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		<title>By: morethanfine</title>
		<link>http://morethanfine.homeschooljournal.net/2007/11/08/since-im-in-a-mood-this-week/#comment-1004</link>
		<author>morethanfine</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's quite possible he only meant it wasn't right for HER for whatever reason and yes, there could have been a mix-up. Whether the feelings were unfounded or not, I don't think I was alone in my feelings during that time based on my conversations with other homeschoolers.  

It's also possible he changed his mind since then, too.  It really didn't matter to me what the staff thought of it - I was still going to do it, but it can be uncomfortable.  I can remember being so very sad one year at the beginning of the school year when someone mentioned (it may have been just during the welcome/announcements not the sermon) how great it was that school had started again and people clapped and cheered.  :(  

Probably just a combination of lots of little things made me feel that way - not that it should have.  It just did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite possible he only meant it wasn&#8217;t right for HER for whatever reason and yes, there could have been a mix-up. Whether the feelings were unfounded or not, I don&#8217;t think I was alone in my feelings during that time based on my conversations with other homeschoolers.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also possible he changed his mind since then, too.  It really didn&#8217;t matter to me what the staff thought of it - I was still going to do it, but it can be uncomfortable.  I can remember being so very sad one year at the beginning of the school year when someone mentioned (it may have been just during the welcome/announcements not the sermon) how great it was that school had started again and people clapped and cheered.  <img src='http://morethanfine.homeschooljournal.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Probably just a combination of lots of little things made me feel that way - not that it should have.  It just did.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://morethanfine.homeschooljournal.net/2007/11/08/since-im-in-a-mood-this-week/#comment-1003</link>
		<author>Brent</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been on staff with that senior pastor, in my conversations with him I can't imagine that he would've said that a parent was doing the wrong thing by homeschooling.  I know that because of his insights on the subject directly to me.  My guess is your friend and he had a mix-up of sorts in communication. Either that or his opinion changed at some point between your friend's conversation and mine...which is possible.  Interestingly, our current CBC staff has had children in all sorts of educational environments--some in unaccredited "university" environments--, and two have homeschooled when it was in the best interest of the children.

In our old building, our staff was supportive of the science classes using our kitchen (health code violations, anyone?) and held homeschool graduation ceremonies.  We were supportive of a local private school using our building for physical education and other needed classroom space.

So, frankly...I don't know where that vibe has come from...other than the reality that once high school rolled around, all the staff children who've been students since I came on staff were public schooled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been on staff with that senior pastor, in my conversations with him I can&#8217;t imagine that he would&#8217;ve said that a parent was doing the wrong thing by homeschooling.  I know that because of his insights on the subject directly to me.  My guess is your friend and he had a mix-up of sorts in communication. Either that or his opinion changed at some point between your friend&#8217;s conversation and mine&#8230;which is possible.  Interestingly, our current CBC staff has had children in all sorts of educational environments&#8211;some in unaccredited &#8220;university&#8221; environments&#8211;, and two have homeschooled when it was in the best interest of the children.</p>
<p>In our old building, our staff was supportive of the science classes using our kitchen (health code violations, anyone?) and held homeschool graduation ceremonies.  We were supportive of a local private school using our building for physical education and other needed classroom space.</p>
<p>So, frankly&#8230;I don&#8217;t know where that vibe has come from&#8230;other than the reality that once high school rolled around, all the staff children who&#8217;ve been students since I came on staff were public schooled.</p>
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		<title>By: morethanfine</title>
		<link>http://morethanfine.homeschooljournal.net/2007/11/08/since-im-in-a-mood-this-week/#comment-1002</link>
		<author>morethanfine</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sure such a list could be made, Brent.  But after doing this for 10+ years it gets very, very old to hear some of it over and over.  There are judgmental people in every walk of life, sadly.  Obnoxious homeschoolers... and public schoolers... and private schoolers... and Christians... and atheists... and on and on. Sometimes I just want people to SHUT UP about it.  I don't go on and on about their choice to use the public schools (or whatever).

I will say that I think it is becoming more "normal" and homeschoolers aren't the oddballs we used to be.  There's more of us and people are more used to us.  

And to the people who would say that to you about homeschooling being the biblical way to educate children? *roll eyes*  When I first started homeschooling another homeschooling mom told me that our then senior pastor had told her that she was doing the wrong thing by home educating her children.  So I think there was a vibe that our church wasn't supportive of homeschoolers.  To hear that you were homeschooling one of your children made me feel better about that vibe.  But it has never crossed my mind that it was the biblical thing to do. 

I think most people, myself included, have had moments where we've stuck our foot in our mouth.  Said something that didn't come out right, or we just weren't thinking.  I think some of the comments referred to in the list fall into that category.  Sometimes you just get tired of hearing anything.

We aren't embarrassed by our homeschooling but we don't always mention it.  Like the other day when the dentist office gave me a note for school for my boys' appointments.  I just smiled and thanked them.  

Robin - I KNOW what you mean!  I think I'm truly shocked at the rudeness of people sometimes and can't think of a thing to say because I'm so dumbfounded.  And I mean rudeness for everything, not just homeschooling... like the witch at Famous Footwear who seemed to think I was stupid the other day because I questioned her for giving me a refund that was more than I paid for the shoes in the first place.  Seriously, she gave me almost $20 more back than I paid.  Then she had the nerve to ask me why I was complaining about it when I wasn't complaining, I was flat out confused.  But hey, that's a whole other topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure such a list could be made, Brent.  But after doing this for 10+ years it gets very, very old to hear some of it over and over.  There are judgmental people in every walk of life, sadly.  Obnoxious homeschoolers&#8230; and public schoolers&#8230; and private schoolers&#8230; and Christians&#8230; and atheists&#8230; and on and on. Sometimes I just want people to SHUT UP about it.  I don&#8217;t go on and on about their choice to use the public schools (or whatever).</p>
<p>I will say that I think it is becoming more &#8220;normal&#8221; and homeschoolers aren&#8217;t the oddballs we used to be.  There&#8217;s more of us and people are more used to us.  </p>
<p>And to the people who would say that to you about homeschooling being the biblical way to educate children? *roll eyes*  When I first started homeschooling another homeschooling mom told me that our then senior pastor had told her that she was doing the wrong thing by home educating her children.  So I think there was a vibe that our church wasn&#8217;t supportive of homeschoolers.  To hear that you were homeschooling one of your children made me feel better about that vibe.  But it has never crossed my mind that it was the biblical thing to do. </p>
<p>I think most people, myself included, have had moments where we&#8217;ve stuck our foot in our mouth.  Said something that didn&#8217;t come out right, or we just weren&#8217;t thinking.  I think some of the comments referred to in the list fall into that category.  Sometimes you just get tired of hearing anything.</p>
<p>We aren&#8217;t embarrassed by our homeschooling but we don&#8217;t always mention it.  Like the other day when the dentist office gave me a note for school for my boys&#8217; appointments.  I just smiled and thanked them.  </p>
<p>Robin - I KNOW what you mean!  I think I&#8217;m truly shocked at the rudeness of people sometimes and can&#8217;t think of a thing to say because I&#8217;m so dumbfounded.  And I mean rudeness for everything, not just homeschooling&#8230; like the witch at Famous Footwear who seemed to think I was stupid the other day because I questioned her for giving me a refund that was more than I paid for the shoes in the first place.  Seriously, she gave me almost $20 more back than I paid.  Then she had the nerve to ask me why I was complaining about it when I wasn&#8217;t complaining, I was flat out confused.  But hey, that&#8217;s a whole other topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://morethanfine.homeschooljournal.net/2007/11/08/since-im-in-a-mood-this-week/#comment-1001</link>
		<author>Robin</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this article too, and I'm right with you. I'd love to be quick witted enough in conversations to spit some of this out to insensitive people who think we are doing the wrong thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this article too, and I&#8217;m right with you. I&#8217;d love to be quick witted enough in conversations to spit some of this out to insensitive people who think we are doing the wrong thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://morethanfine.homeschooljournal.net/2007/11/08/since-im-in-a-mood-this-week/#comment-1000</link>
		<author>Brent</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so you know, as a pastor who has had children in three types of educational environments, a list could be made for the same types of attitudes from homeschool parents towards public schooling.

For example, homeschool parents came up to me when they discovered my youngest was in a form of education from the home:  "Finally!  We have a pastor at our church who understands the biblical way to educate children."  Please.

Or, if I were to make an alternative list, one might be:  "Don't assume that because I public school my children that said decision to do so wasn't prayed about through and through."  

Or, "If you can't say something nice about public schools, shut up!"  Why?  all forms of education have strengths and weaknesses.  Why can't we have a cup of joe and discuss them.

Or, "Stop telling us about the horrors of the day-in, day-out of the public school system.  All children who go through the educational system in our country aren't cookie-cutter, non-thinking clones and drones just out to have a good time at prom and win state championships."

Now, don't get me wrong.  I'm a HUGE fan of parents making the best choice for their child when it comes to education.  Like I said, in my own home we've availed ourselves to public schools, a "magnet" school that required auditions and interviews, and a form of schooling at home.

But, they all have plusses and minuses and there have been successes and failures in all of them that folks can point to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so you know, as a pastor who has had children in three types of educational environments, a list could be made for the same types of attitudes from homeschool parents towards public schooling.</p>
<p>For example, homeschool parents came up to me when they discovered my youngest was in a form of education from the home:  &#8220;Finally!  We have a pastor at our church who understands the biblical way to educate children.&#8221;  Please.</p>
<p>Or, if I were to make an alternative list, one might be:  &#8220;Don&#8217;t assume that because I public school my children that said decision to do so wasn&#8217;t prayed about through and through.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Or, &#8220;If you can&#8217;t say something nice about public schools, shut up!&#8221;  Why?  all forms of education have strengths and weaknesses.  Why can&#8217;t we have a cup of joe and discuss them.</p>
<p>Or, &#8220;Stop telling us about the horrors of the day-in, day-out of the public school system.  All children who go through the educational system in our country aren&#8217;t cookie-cutter, non-thinking clones and drones just out to have a good time at prom and win state championships.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong.  I&#8217;m a HUGE fan of parents making the best choice for their child when it comes to education.  Like I said, in my own home we&#8217;ve availed ourselves to public schools, a &#8220;magnet&#8221; school that required auditions and interviews, and a form of schooling at home.</p>
<p>But, they all have plusses and minuses and there have been successes and failures in all of them that folks can point to.</p>
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		<title>By: carrie</title>
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		<author>carrie</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 06:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fantastic! I should print out copies to carry around with me for whenever one of these situations occurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fantastic! I should print out copies to carry around with me for whenever one of these situations occurs.</p>
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